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TWO CLASS PROBLEMS

24/4/2018

 
Issue 8, Semester 1

By Cam Doig

Melbourne Law School has two class problems.

One: class is invisible to most children of privilege here.

Two: some MLS students are doing so well, they’ve decided their classmates don’t need lecture recordings.
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PROBLEM 1: MLS AND CLASS

As one of the last bottlenecks for Melbourne’s elite, it’s only natural that MLS is a petri dish for some of the most privileged and unselfcritical people in the state.

Leaving aside overt Toryism and RM Williams-onomics, some students just feel they’re better than the plebs.

Understandable. We have our own building, silent study room, and lounge. We spend much of our time elevated from the street level. Many of us will end up at the levers of corporate and political power. In our minds, we already move in circles of influence and esteem.

You can see why some well-heeled students can’t put themselves in the place of a mature-age student, working student, parent, carer, or student experiencing hardship.

It’s just never crossed their minds that the world might look totally different to some people.

All up, there’s three types of well-off MLS students.

Type one are aware of their class status. They may do community legal work, try influencing policy, or just try to avoid becoming Julie Bishop, defending companies against asbestos-related illness claims.

Type two are old-school reactionaries: young Libs, crypto-fascists in the DM comments section, and culture warriors screaming about hegemonic political correctness. Their view on class is timeless.

Type three are the   folks who just ignore class. To advocate restricting lecture recordings, they lean on well-worn tropes: there’s nothing structural about unequal access to services, and barriers to basic rights can be overcome  through individual endeavour.

This demographic is the true obstacle to meaningful change on lecture recordings.

If we can show them that there are two sides to this debate – students in need, and students who already have everything they need – we may win them over.

PROBLEM 2: RECORDINGS
Argument 1: Laziness and participation

The MLS website solemnly warns, “Class attendance is an important part of the learning journey at MLS and attending classes should be understood as a serious responsibility.”

This infantilising language assumes mounting HECS debt is insufficient to make students acutely aware of their responsibilities.

It makes attendance a moral means-test: there shouldn’t be universal access to lecture content, because only some earn it by showing up.

The policy’s more enthusiastic cheerleaders in the student cohort assume their classmates just want to laze at home on the couch, alternating between lectures and Netflix.

It’s a cynical ploy to justify a microcosm of “incentive-to-work” welfare regimes. It makes the same assumption that everyone could put in the effort, and the only reason not to is laziness.

This Hobbesian view of people’s motivations doesn’t consider that some people have other, legitimate demands on their time.

Further, the elitist argument that recordings threaten our “strong culture of scholarship, commitment and community” assumes students don’t want to be in at uni, fully engaging in class.

It’s a coded appeal to class identity; an attempt to wedge lecture recording advocates by suggesting they don’t care about creating an environment of excellence where students thrive.

It posits that withholding recordings has “more or less created one hundred percent attendance”, ignoring what people had to miss out on because they had no choice.

It predicts, without evidence, that providing recordings will empty seminars. As Academic Board stated in a 2013 policy outline, “there is little empirical evidence to suggest a negative relationship between lecture capture and diminished lecture attendance.”

The argument relies on the resilient intellectual virus that students are consumers, giving us two choices: voting with our feet on the policy by leaving MLS; or grappling with special consideration.


Argument 2: Special consideration

MLS will only give you recordings in three scenarios, where:

  1. Administrative error prevents students from attending class.
  2. Medical/personal emergency or religious commitment will cause [student] to miss class for more than 10 consecutive business days.
  3. You’re registered for ongoing support.

For recordings, you need to miss 11 consecutive business days, or 15 calendar days. You’re already behind by that stage.

This remains unacceptable, despite the university’s indication that “in limited circumstances” they’ll make the 11 days cumulative across 3-4 weeks, instead of requiring consecutivity. “Limited circumstances” may indicate a more onerous evidentiary burden on students.

Either way, it’s a humiliating exercise of power over voting-age adults, displaying breathtaking contempt for human need. It makes a mockery of the MLS “therapy dog”, showing cosmetic change is easier than trying to meet people’s actual needs.

Further, the warning that “[e]vidence must be provided” assumes students are feckless, tech-happy loungers willing to manufacture crises and cheat recordings out from under the university’s nose.

They’re treating us like children. But some people in the cohort seem to love that.

For ongoing support, it shouldn’t be on students experiencing hardship to bare their problems to the university, and beg for recordings.


TIME FOR CLASS

The university’s uncritical student partisans must explain why these abstractions are more important than making a publicly funded institution maximally open and welcoming to people experiencing hardship.

If they can’t, then the need for accessible education outweighs the niche cultural values of our ivory tower.

Will lecture recordings hurt your cohort, more than they will help your classmates who need it?

If yes, keep banging the drum for the status quo. If no, start a conversation with the class agnostics.

Ask what we can do to help out our class.
Tim
24/4/2018 06:14:11 pm

Cam, this is an excellent piece, particularly on how it acknowledges the intersection of class disparities and consciousness with the lecture recordings issue at MLS. This article should be read by everyone at this law school.

Daniel
24/4/2018 06:27:09 pm

I like this article

Not Daniel
24/4/2018 06:39:48 pm

I dislike this article

Daniel
24/4/2018 06:45:23 pm

Shame about the name

Laura
24/4/2018 06:30:03 pm

Awesome article!

Big fan
24/4/2018 06:40:33 pm

I love you Cameron

ANON
24/4/2018 06:44:58 pm

An additional note on recordings, the recordings that are provided are from one lecturer of the subject so not necessarily from the lecturer of your classes!

Tim
24/4/2018 07:44:26 pm

Good pick up and under emphasised point . Pretty arbitrary when it won't be the lecturer marking your work

Jessica
24/4/2018 06:51:32 pm

This article really resonates with me.
One of the best articles I've read in DM.

Go team
24/4/2018 07:01:38 pm

Glad that although there seems to be millions of articles on the topic of lecture recording, they're becoming better researched by the day. Well done, Cam!

Jared
24/4/2018 07:18:02 pm

If a majority of the student body is adamant lecture recordings be provided the University should accommodate that request. Students are paying for a service and the University should, to a certain extent, respect what the customers want.

That being said, to frame this purely as a classist, elitist problem is just wrong.

Do you thinks students would NOT 'manufacture crises' to access recordings? Do you believe the JD program would NOT suffer from ever increasing groups of students choosing to listen at home, instead of coming to class? In short, do you think there are no disadvantages to providing lecture recordings en masse?

The fact is that a lot of students exaggerate both their commitment to the degree and their extra-curricular commitments away from it.
Time management is a part of growing up. Sacrifice is a part of adulthood. You can't always have everything all the time.

Now, if you have kids to care for, or need to work (as close to) full time as possible just to get by, then you are undoubtedly living an incredibly difficult and stressful life. But if five hours worth of your weekly salary is spent on beers and nights out then I don't have much sympathy for you.

The current policy is in need of changes that will enable disadvantaged students to be as productive and effective in their learning as possible. It needs to be updated so as to make things as easy as possible for students who actually need it. That being said, simply disagreeing with the concept of mass lecture recordings doesn't mark you as a 'child of privilege'.

Tim
24/4/2018 07:45:56 pm

Nah it does, pretty much a guarantee you have Liberal party sympathies if youre against recorded lectures

Labor Voter
24/4/2018 08:57:39 pm

I’m in favour of a far more relaxed policy that genuinely recognises need - and the current one doesn’t. But I’m not in favour of universal access to recordings.

Disagreeing about universal access doesn’t make me classist or a Liberal voter. I just honestly think quality of learning will be affected, and I think that attendance should be the expectation not the exception.

Tim
24/4/2018 09:00:58 pm

That's the idea. Making lecture recordings available doesn't imply that they become the dominant learning model. Live shows are better than the album

Labor Voter
24/4/2018 09:41:01 pm

Not convinced. And if the needs of the students can be catered to without running that risk, i'm still in favour of a more relaxed, but not universal policy of access to lecture recordings.

NPJ
25/4/2018 10:08:06 am

As a below the line, conspiracy theorist, piracy party voter, I don't believe Tim's analysis is correct.

Being against universal lecture recordings doesn't make you a liberal, it makes you a dumbass, and an accessory to a breach of policy. If the law school didn't bring in bank it would be crucified.

Jimi
25/4/2018 10:31:57 am

Jeeeeeez Tim & Nick you guys get real harsh real quick. Your inability to conceive of anyone else's opinion as anything but satanic is probably the reason this article is getting more traction than any of your complaints ever did.

[CENSORED]
25/4/2018 09:09:07 pm

Jimi, you're a young liberal so of course you'd say that

Jimi
26/4/2018 08:00:11 am

*Gasps in horror*

Tim
26/4/2018 09:40:21 am

Jimi, you're right that my comment about liberal voters is hyperbolic and reductive. At the same time, you're aware that there are class and ideological issues underpinning the lecture recordings debate (as Cam is doing a fantastic job of identifying), and that Nick and I have both taken a number of constructive steps that, along with the voices of many other students and the work of student groups, has helped get the issue the awareness it's had at MLS and the beginnings of policy change it's had so far.

This concern now being spearheaded and led by people other than myself or Nick is far from a worry - it's an absolute necessity and a source of pride for me (and I imagine Nick, though, to the surprise of many, we actually are different people) since we're entering the final weeks of our degree. I'm glad that the flame will burn strong .

You go, Jimi
26/4/2018 11:26:49 am

Jimi was adressing the fact that you were being unpleasant and dismissive of differing views as inherently classist, not for being passionate about student access to lecture recordings.

Quite apart from any other views expressed - the university has a legitimate interest in not tacitly promoting the JD as an online course. It is about setting standards of commitment to the degree aimed at producing better and more engaged graduates. You can see that from a cynical perspective, or as being about educational ideals, but it's fair enough.

Relaxing the recording policy without providing universal access can ensure that students will get the access they need without adversely affecting the uni's interests. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

Tim
28/4/2018 07:48:16 am

My concern with what you've said is that this is a battle that has already been fought and won by the students against the university. Lecture recordings are by default required across the university. The rest of the university is hardly moving to an "online" model either. This is why it isn't "extreme" to want universal lecture recordings access. What is being requested is quite modest - for the law school to adopt what is meant to be mandatory university policy.

Sigh
28/4/2018 09:17:18 am

I didn’t say your proposal was extreme. I simply said the uni has a reasonable interest in not making recordings universally available and that students’ needs can be met through a compromise that works for everyone.

Or don’t you think the University has a legitimate interest here?

Tim
28/4/2018 10:57:18 am

Why are you commenting anonymously if it is so legitimate and reasonable?

The law school has the same interests as the rest of the University of Melbourne. The obstinate position of flagrantly ignoring the policy doesn't come from any desire to benefit students. It stems from faculty members in senior positions with an attitude of elitism that somehow not recording lectures contributes to the air of prestige they want the marketing to smell of. Thankfully, we now have a new Dean, so there is an opportunity to get past the reactionary lecturer's with a pet peeve against this. In no way has the law school held back on recording lectures for the benefit of students.

Labor Voter
29/4/2018 08:49:25 pm

I'm just not keen on revealing my voting preferences. If we ever meet at law school and you haven't jumped onto a new bandwagon by then, I'll tell you the same thing to your face and let you figure it out.

Tim
1/5/2018 07:52:59 am

Bandwagon? I've been advocating for lecture recordings since 2015. And we vote the same way.

Clare
24/4/2018 09:08:29 pm

This article is spot on!

Ayman (MULSS)
24/4/2018 10:30:48 pm

Thanks, Cam. Just a note on the inclusion of 'limited circumstances' and whether this suggests a higher evidentiary burden for cumulative absences of 10+ days: the LSS sought clarification from Faculty on this point and understand this to not be the case, by virtue of an amendment made to the subsequent sentence. That is, where a student provides evidence as to the cumulative impact on attendance, they should receive access to the recordings. We trust this to be the case in its application and ask students to consult the Assistant Dean (Teaching & Learning) and/or the LSS if this does not occur.

Anxious Adult Learner
25/4/2018 12:14:37 pm

Anxiety is blind to class.

Surely we can all apply for access to lecture recordings, given our common ailment?

Lily
26/4/2018 08:56:31 am

Tbh I am kind of sick of the assumptions that come with being against lecture recordings. I’m public schooled, from a lower socio econ background, special consid and against blanket access to lecture recordings. We exist!

Stefan P (LLSN)
26/4/2018 10:12:59 am

We aren’t saying you don’t exist. My reading of this piece is that it is addressing what advocates of lecture recordings see to be the bigggest hurdle (within our student cohort) to access to lecture recordings.

That being said, we want to hear your concerns as to why you don’t want universal lecture recordings. Please feel free to message me anytime or head to the LLSN website to see our mission statement and why we advocate for lecture recordings. We don’t want anyone to feel excluded from the debate and are always free to chat.

LILY
26/4/2018 01:03:15 pm

I understand the point of the article. Maybe you didn't understand the point of my comment. I've read the statement, I've engaged. In my opinion Francis' article last week raised a lot of interesting points. However again the comments section was reduced to the binary of lower class / upper class with it being assumed that the only students against lecture recordings were upper class liberal voters.

It's boring. I feel like lower class students are being spoken for and being used as a reason for lecture recordings by people who have no idea about our experience. The generalisations are evidence of that. Maybe that's too big a statement but maybe it's not. Regardless I've been left feeling disenfranchised by the debate.

Stefan P (LLSN)
26/4/2018 04:03:56 pm

I understood the point of your comment and I'm sorry that this discussion has left you feeling disenfranchised, no one deserves to feel that way at MLS. As for my advocacy, it comes from a position of my personal experiences of disenfranchisement at MLS. Please don't feel like my comment or advocacy in any way attempts to speak for you or disenfranchise you in any way.

Francis's article last week did raise some interesting points but it was telling that the first comment on the article was a sarcastic attack on parents and working students.

So suggesting that it was those who use the binary of lower/upper class that 'reduced' the comments sections of Francis's article is not strictly true.

But this is a comments section, it is expected (especially where you can remain anonymous).

That's why I said feel free to message me, because I know the comments section isn't the appropriate place to have a meaningful conversation on a live issue. Of course, you don't have to message me, but I hope that you do.

Francis Stagg
26/4/2018 02:06:54 pm

To the “social justice warriors” infuriated by my ‘elitist,’ ‘dumbass’ and quintessentially ‘liberal’ opinion.

Forget the obiter. Focus on the ratio.

If you’d care to actually engage with the crux of my article, you will note that it essentially serves as a warning sign for movements that embrace ‘digitisation’ without stopping to ponder the problems that such a transition can entail.

In this respect, the hot topic of lecture recordings represents a compelling example.

It was not the intention of my piece to stimulate a tiresome influx of cumbersome identity politics.

peer into this mirror
26/4/2018 04:53:45 pm

https://www.reddit.com/r/iamverysmart/

JS
28/4/2018 02:44:15 pm

One point that seems to always be missing from this debate is the possibility of flexible class times instead?

I've had several friends (from a mix of class backgrounds, for what it's worth) who have received offers from both Monash's JD and MLS, and I have always strongly encouraged them to go to Monash instead. The lack of flexibility available in this course is a real problem. I wanted to take off 6 months in my second year to enjoy a once in a lifetime opportunity, and was forced to take off the whole year. When I wanted to come back - I had to justify why they should let me!

Further, the total lack of flexible class times is outrageous. The Monash JD offers both night classes and intensives for all of the compulsory subjects, and many of the electives available. This means that my partner can work full time and study full time quite easily... Never misses a class, and is still able to properly support herself. That is simply not possible at MLS!

I'm not sold on lecture recordings: they certainly produced a disengaged and bored undergraduate student in me, and I know that being forced to attend classes has brought the best out of me personally. But for me the real outrage is that others are not able to enjoy the class participation I've had for 3+ years now at MLS. Facilitating actual attendance should be a priority too.


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