LSS ELECTIONS

14/9/2022

Apologies for resurrecting demin, but i feel as if students should be fully informed going into this upcoming AGM.

I do not think that there has been this much hype around an LSS election since the Jake, Thea and Max saga back in first-year. As much as I disagreed with some of the things that were said in that campaign, I thought it was a fair election. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for this one.

While I am not involved in the day-to-day drama of the LSS, I have heard rumblings of the LSS executives interfering in the electoral process. The Inaugural Presidential Debate apparently also violated the election rules.

But that is not even the worst of it. On the day that the voting opened, the President of the LSS was sending messages to group chats, expressly declaring support for one candidate with ‘no other preferences’.

I don’t know whether the message violates any election rules but it does undermine the integrity of the election process. I thought that the President was supposed to remain impartial or at least give the appearance of impartiality.

Clearly, the President of the LSS thought this as well.

Anonymous.

Editors' Note: This anonymous submission was received last night. The source asserts they are not a candidate in the current LSS elections, and that they submitted the article as soon as they received the embedded screenshots from a friend. They say their motivation was that LSS members have a right to know what has transpired.

The persons named in this article were approached last night for comment, but have not yet taken the opportunity. Should they decide to offer comment at a later time, their statements will be added to this story.

Update 14/9/2022.

Michael Donato, a candidate for President in the election, has offered the following comment:

I had no knowledge of this message being sent. When it was brought to my attention by a concerned voter I, of my own volition, decided to report this to the Returning Officer to ensure a fair adjudication could be made. I take the Election Standing Rules seriously, and would never intend to bring the MULSS electoral process into disrepute.

Queen Elizabeth II

14/9/2022 04:59:34 pm

I'm glad I died and didn't live to see this! How shocking.

Juicy de min lover

14/9/2022 04:59:51 pm

The return!!!! LSS RISE UP!

THE LSS ARE IRRELEVANT

14/9/2022 05:01:26 pm

Okay but the LSS doesn't even matter?

14/9/2022 08:35:50 pm

I mean for clerkships they do

Rachel Maddow

14/9/2022 05:05:08 pm

I covered Russiagate and this is as bad, if not worse

LSS RISE UP

14/9/2022 05:09:39 pm

They targeted the LSS.

The LSS.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of our CVs all to draw out a single extra point in our pursuit of a clerkship at Allens.

Many of us have made our livelihoods out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same emails to stakeholders over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know every little detail such that some have attained such LSS nirvana that they can literally recite the LinkedIn bios of KWM partners blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many pages of Arlen's books have been highlighted, word documents freezing, disks and carts destroyed in frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They try to hold us accountable for our actions as elected representatives? We're already building a new law society without them. They make fun of our events? The LSS gang aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making events only for ourselves.

They think calling us boring, elitist, hypocrites is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 14 year olds when we were house prefects at Melbourne's most prestigious schools. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitised to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challenge when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with peers and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

The LSS members are competitive and hardcore, by nature. We love a challenge. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challenge us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another clerkship application.

Max's Dad

14/9/2022 05:09:55 pm

Well done Max. So proud of what you can accomplish from our modest basement on Sydney's north shore.

Max's therapist

14/9/2022 05:12:14 pm

I apologise to the general public for Max's behaviour, we will be discussing how to 'not be an asshole' at our next group therapy session.

Max defender

14/9/2022 05:15:34 pm

Maybe Remy should not have interfered in the election? Just because you all like Remy more than Max doesn't mean her actions here are defensible... Side note - it's not like Max wrote the article, you really think the LSS lets him in their private groups. More like someone in the LSS is just fucking sick of Remy lmao

Max Defender Defender

14/9/2022 05:17:09 pm

Max's defender is right and totally not max in a trenchcoat defending himself.

Max Offender

14/9/2022 05:17:26 pm

I want to offend to the max, not a little, not moderately, but the max.

Max defender defender defender

14/9/2022 05:18:27 pm

Who am I defending again?

LSS close ranks!

14/9/2022 05:19:52 pm

Quickly LSS members! Defend our glorious leader! Discredit Max! Louder for the people in the back! Can't wait to clerk at Bakers xx

ur so dumb

14/9/2022 05:22:35 pm

isn't this report made by a LSS member since this was on their private channels? because i made it,,,

14/9/2022 09:24:03 pm

The fact that it was leaked from someone in the same messenger group is interesting.

@lets think

14/9/2022 11:38:36 pm

Why those two?

Let’s not

14/9/2022 11:57:51 pm

Let’s stop the speculating and focus on the main issue

Max unsuspender

14/9/2022 05:28:11 pm

The De Min website has been suspended (ie visiting it returned a 404 error) since early this year, but all of a sudden it’s back online now that someone has a weird tenuous accusation to make about the LSS election. One could even say it’s been unsuspended.

Gee wiz I wonder who could have done this?

Max 's Prep Teacher

14/9/2022 05:38:25 pm

Max will be getting a detention after class tomorrow after he comes back to school to learn the alphabet, counting without his fingers, and basic respect for others.

Max why are you deleting comments?

14/9/2022 05:42:18 pm

Don’t you want everyone to see what a clever young boy you are for setting up your own association?

https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/clubs-and-fundraising/incorporated-associations/search-for-an-incorporated-association?id=08f6ca73-2a70-eb11-b1ab-000d3a854410

FACT CHECK

14/9/2022 05:50:13 pm

Per 4(g)i of the election standing regulations Remy not only broke a convention but actual rules by campaigning as a third party in a private group for the purposes of campaigning for a candidate without Leadership Team permission:

i. to avoid doubt, no candidate is permitted to do, or to allow any third party to do, any of the following for the purposes of campaigning for any candidate:
1. create, share or post in, any group, page or event, whether public or private, without the permission of the Leadership Team;
2. ‘tag’ any candidate or third party in any post or status;
3. ‘share’ any post or status with any candidate or third party,

See website for more details

These rules apply to candidates...

14/9/2022 05:56:27 pm

... which means they don't apply to Remy. The only way they matter here is if Michael "allowed Remy" to make the post which there's no evidence he did.

Doesn't mean what Remy did was commendable but that just isn't how the rule works.

Nice try Max, but you're still a loser.

Hi Remy

14/9/2022 10:25:22 pm

Read the entire regs, though maybe that’s too much to ask from you. Third party responsibility is covered and it goes beyond “allowing”

Dear LSS

14/9/2022 05:51:47 pm

Please be sure to never be human and make a mistake, less the wrath of Max and his voldemort-like organisation comes for you. Please ensure you become robots, devoid of feeling, emotion and room for error.

haha 'mistake'

14/9/2022 10:20:32 pm

I wouldn't characterise this as a 'mistake', it was an active attempt to rig an election. Despite whatever animosity or ill-will people feel towards Max, it is hard to excuse or laugh away Remy's actions by shifting the attention on the purported author of this article. In doing so, the LSS will continue the culture of avoiding culpability and responsibility.

MAX'S GRANDMOTHER

14/9/2022 06:18:15 pm

Loving this return to unhinged LSS bashing from De Min... a truly iconic resurrection to witness in my final semester xx

Funny Girl

14/9/2022 06:27:53 pm

All hail the Lea Michelle of the LSS

Im not racist

14/9/2022 11:08:26 pm

She really is a funny girl

Moana

14/9/2022 11:43:59 pm

I've been staring at the edge of the water
'Long as I can remember
Never really knowing why

De min sucks but I miss it

14/9/2022 06:50:05 pm

How can you not miss this? It's fucking hilarious

Past LSS Director

14/9/2022 06:56:52 pm

I dislike Max Ferguson’s attempts for relevancy and this gossip rag as much as the next person, but this is really shitty of the LSS. Regardless of whether you hate/don’t care about the LSS, lots of people do and the people on it are volunteers who (mostly) are trying to leave law school and their communities better than they found it. The LSS also has real money and power when it comes to the decisions that are made for law students.

That’s why it’s absolutely unacceptable that someone elected to the role has abused their position to sway another election.

It doesn’t matter if you think one candidate is much like the other, or that LSS is a clusterfuck anyway. It matters because this is how the LSS becomes even more of a clusterfuck, and it’s things like this that prevent non-nepotism baby students from getting a fair shot at changing things (or if you’re cynical, even having things on their resume). It doesn’t matter if it’s a violation of convention rather than campaign rules. When I ran for Director in 2021, we were told that the 2020 directors werent even allowed to LIKE our campaign posts because of favouritism. It’s bullshit and shows a lack of responsibility, transparency and just plain competency that the LSS Exec have tried to sweep this under the rug. This in itself isn’t surprising, but it is disheartening because it overshadows the very real good other members of the LSS are doing and have done for the law school and gives wankers something to grandstand about.

FELLOW PAST DIREC-TOR

14/9/2022 10:44:03 pm

10/10 comment. This is where it's at. So many people at the LSS are well-meaning and put in so much effort to fulfil their roles and genuinely try and make a difference. Let this event not throw shade on those well-meaning members of the committee.

ex candidate of a Journal

14/9/2022 07:23:26 pm

As an ex candidate for an elected position (for one of the Journals - you guess), whose election was also sabotaged unethically by Returning Officers, I can say that this is a structural issue — the law school needs to investigate and rectify this issue, in order to retain some semblance of meritocracy.

Bruh

14/9/2022 09:14:05 pm

2020/2021 MULR Editor Election? I vaguely remember the drama - what did they do again?

Not quite the journal

14/9/2022 10:07:09 pm

Wrong journal and date ;p

Nope

14/9/2022 10:44:44 pm

If you’re referring to the Melbourne journal of international law, then I can say without a doubt that that election pales in comparison with this LSS issue. Valid concerns were raised and the ticket that lacked the appropriate experience didnt. Advocate for investigation all you want but don’t bring in un-analogisable conduct and drag out issues for the satisfaction of your own agenda.

LOL

15/9/2022 10:58:59 am

Be careful … we all have receipts of everything that went on behind the scenes! Wouldn’t want to send that all to Max would we?

Get outta here

15/9/2022 11:25:44 am

Dear ‘Lol’ receipt person, if only you put as much effort into actually thinking about what you say as you did shit stirring, the world would be a better place. Contribute something meaningful rather than using de min as a threat to create issues that don’t exist.

Modal Socioeconomic Status

15/9/2022 10:38:14 am

Meritocracy? Here?

Let me know

14/9/2022 07:30:29 pm

This is bullying.
No one here ran for president last year.
Remy is the ONLY one who showed up and did the work.
The blatant attacks on her as a person from this publication is vile and unproductive.
Remy obviously messed up, but she does not deserve this level of vilification. She is not the prime minister of Australia she’s a leader of student politics. Get over yourselves.

JD student

14/9/2022 07:40:43 pm

Umm she didn’t step up? You’re acting like she came to the AGM and volunteered for a position that no one applied for. She was the only candidate.

Yes!

14/9/2022 10:22:19 pm

Preach!

Confused

14/9/2022 09:07:14 pm

Yeah worked so hard. The one instruction she gave to her LSS team (show impartiality) she herself couldn’t keep.

Letting you know

14/9/2022 10:12:34 pm

I agree- Remy has done a lot this year ESPECIALLY around sexual misconduct this is such a witch hunt people! She made a mistake, it's now over. Let's all move on.

Funny

14/9/2022 10:23:03 pm

Something a LSS committee member would say. Obviously she’s done a good job as president but at the same time she stuffed up. Let people vent out how unfair this whole election was.

Hmm

14/9/2022 10:24:25 pm

Just because Remy has done some decent work in one area doesn't excuse her from taking responsibility for this (significant) mistake. If people don't hold her accountable then the LSS' culture of 'shifting the blame' will continue forever. She may not be the prime minister of Australia but she is still the president of a LAW students' society and 'not' doing this kinda thing is the bare minimum/common sense really.

LETTING YOU KNOW

15/9/2022 08:07:36 am

I'm actually not an LSS member. Hardly know Remy. I just watched people go at her last night just and tell her she had done the wrong thing after she'd apologised. People didn't even have questions about it they were just there to tell her what she did wrong from their high horse.

Context

15/9/2022 09:21:44 am

Then perhaps you could posit that there was more going on that those who spoke were aware of, rather than dismissing legitimate allegations as a witch-hunt. People would have been more forgiving if this was an isolated incident in an otherwise shining presidency - it was not.

Heath Ledger

14/9/2022 10:27:11 pm

She looked like she was so bored in the AGM, should’ve seen her face when Michael spoke, it was like she saw a bunch of kittens

14/9/2022 10:29:47 pm

Exactly - almost an insult to people who are actually trying to change and improve the LSS and law school culture in general.

Piping hot

14/9/2022 07:42:43 pm

Can someone spill the tea on the debate?

Yes

14/9/2022 11:54:41 pm

What do u wanna know?

15/9/2022 12:07:04 am

What was the drama?!

Earl Grey

15/9/2022 11:52:22 am

Everything lol

DEMOCRACY DIES IN THE DARKNESS

14/9/2022 08:06:30 pm

THE CONSTITUTION OF AUSTRALIA MAKES THREE IMPLICATIONS. CENTRAL AMONGST THEM IS THE IMPLIED FREEDOM OF POLITICAL COMMUNICATION.

THIS IMPLICATION ARISES FROMT THE TEXT AND THE STRUCTURE OF THE CONSTITUTION, AND PARTICULARLY THOSE SECTIONS CONCERNING THE ELECTION OF MEMBERS AND SENATORS TO THE COMMONWEALTH PARLIAMENT, AND THAT SECTION CONCERNING THE VOTING OF REFERENDUMS.

young apprentice

14/9/2022 08:09:09 pm

YOU ARE THE CONSTITUTION. ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE LSS ARE THE LSS SITTING IN GENERAL MEETING. CONVENE YOURSELVES AND DECLARE YOURSELVES UNGOVERNABLE. YOUR GOVERNORS CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT. EVERY MAN MUST KNOW THIS IT IS THE FINAL TRUTH. ASSEMBLE YOURSELVES AND YOU WILL BE FREE BY RESOLUTION. RESOLVE YOURSELVES TOWARDS FREEDOM.

THE GREATEST LAW STUDENT TO EVER LIVE

14/9/2022 08:19:45 pm

"I am the greatest law student to ever live". I AM THE GREATEST LAW STUDENT.

14/9/2022 11:50:00 pm

You have not contributed to this conversation. Drink more water and go to bed dear :)

The law of elections if the law of relations between people

14/9/2022 08:25:12 pm

In light of this post I just wanted to share the below wisdom. Please read it and reflect.

"At present I content myself with pointing out that in English law there must be and is some general conception of relations, giving rise to a duty of care, of which the particular cases found in the
books are but instances. The liability for negligence whether you style it such or treat it as in other
systems as a species of "culpa," is no doubt based upon a general public sentiment of moral
wrongdoing for which the offender must pay. But acts or omissions which any moral code would
censure cannot in a practical world be treated so as to give a right to every person injured by them
to demand relief. In this way rules of law arise which limit the range of complainants and the extent
of their remedy. The rule that you are to love your neighbour becomes m law you must not injure
your neighbour; and the lawyer's question "Who is my neighbour?" receives a restricted reply. You
must take reasonable care to avoid acts or omissions which you can reasonably foresee would be
likely to injure your neighbour. Who then in law is my neighbour? The answer seems to be persons
who are so closely and directly affected by my act that I ought reasonably to have them in
contemplation as being so affected when I am directing my mind to the acts or omissions which are
called in question"

Glsa

14/9/2022 08:38:47 pm

Why does no one ever care that we have corruption too :-(

Deflection, not reflection

14/9/2022 09:02:12 pm

Sure Jan

Share more

14/9/2022 10:03:46 pm

Share more, please??

boba

14/9/2022 10:40:59 pm

tea please, I thought only the LSS was like this

Ex GLSA

14/9/2022 11:04:10 pm

GLSA is seriously fucked

WOC

14/9/2022 08:47:53 pm

Just love it when white girls get away with things

Another POC

14/9/2022 08:48:39 pm

Amen to that !

Non-white girl

14/9/2022 11:51:54 pm

Preach babe preach!

Enough

14/9/2022 09:51:56 pm

Enough is enough - dismantle the LSS.

um excuse me?

14/9/2022 11:05:07 pm

The way she just brushed it off at the AGM knowing she won’t be held accountable smh

WOC HERE

14/9/2022 11:56:54 pm

I’m going to crack it if I see another attempt of discussing feminism in the legal industry with a panel of white women

What the

14/9/2022 09:21:53 pm

I don’t understand. She wrote vote Michael and then tried to make herself seem impartial with the whole 🫣 🤧.

RIGHT!!!

14/9/2022 10:25:01 pm

The hypocrisy is almost laughable

Yeahhhhh

14/9/2022 11:54:07 pm

I appreciate that Michael responded. If he had won... the president's actions would have put his reputation into disrepute!

NOT THE WHOLE STORY

14/9/2022 09:29:10 pm

These aren’t even the only rules that have been broken this election either

confused

14/9/2022 11:01:56 pm

What other rules were broken?

In the know

15/9/2022 12:05:27 am

LSS members and election candidates promoting other candidates. Conventions regarding elections being enforced on some but not others, so certain candidates got to benefit from the misconduct. A lot of general bullshit, some of which was expressly against the rules and some of which was just bad practice.

@ in the know

15/9/2022 12:14:22 am

Give us specifics

Where did De Min go?

14/9/2022 10:01:08 pm

I think it is worth reflecting that before De Minimis was driven into the ground under an avalanche of poor stewardship and bad faith management, it was one of law school's genuine cornerstones of culture, managed and written by students who wanted to do their best to give their classmates something a little bit different and interesting to read every once and a while. Now that the site is back up (who can say for how long), you can read back just a few years and find a whole history of insightful, and heartfelt pieces written by a decade of MLS students who I'm sure would all be sad to learn that ten years of creative legacy were utterly destroyed by a few short years of bad faith spectacle and LSS v De Min culture wars bullshit.

Old reader

14/9/2022 10:14:13 pm

I feel this. Makes me sad.

Ex-reader

14/9/2022 10:20:11 pm

A quote from back in 2020, a reminder of what De Min used to be and stand for:

"Look at De Minimis not simply as a platform for occasionally interesting articles – but as a part of this school’s culture and community. Not that it’s our place to guide that culture, or to speak for that community, but perhaps we have the privilege to tell a few of its stories every now and then. I hope that this year we have done a good job of that, because those stories are important. Sometimes we tell those stories to change things, to educate or learn. Sometimes we tell stories to make ourselves laugh, or cry. Sometimes just because we have a story to tell and we hope that somebody wants to hear it. Stories shape us, the tellers, and the listeners. After a story, even if the world itself hasn’t changed, the wallpaper has, and things mean something different to what they meant before.

And the best stories aren’t the ones that just end – they’re the ones that new people take over and start telling for themselves instead.

So, for some of us, this is the end, at least of our part in the story of De Minimis. I hope that it was a good story. I hope that some of it was worth writing down. And I hope that when the next person tells it, that they’ll tell it with some new ideas, some new characters, and some new lessons. And that when they do, that they’ll tell it even better than the last time."

14/9/2022 10:21:54 pm

Nah, get over it, De Min was always trash.

Absolutely right

26/9/2022 04:04:47 pm

De Min has had some incredible articles over the years. It has a long history going back to the 1940s. PhD theses have been written about it. Bring it back

Trying not to be mad

14/9/2022 10:09:24 pm

Remy made an apology at the MULSS AGM meeting. But honestly, this was made too late.

No proper follow through from election breaches. Round about answers not addressing the core issues in the election process. Lack of accountability. RO not being sufficiently seperate from the law school. Elections based on popularity and not policy.

Bullshit. I hope I graduate soon.

Make it public

14/9/2022 10:20:53 pm

Yeah kind of sucks that she didn’t really fully own up to it. I guess its because she’s at the end of her presidency.

Didn’t realise that this was the sort of environment MLS had.

Who’s the new pres?

14/9/2022 10:26:34 pm

So did this Michael guy win?

SORRY

14/9/2022 10:31:19 pm

Wait who won

14/9/2022 10:35:59 pm

Who won instead ?

ANOTHER DODGY PRES

14/9/2022 10:57:37 pm

Someone else who screwed around with the rules and benefited from other people's favouritism

What?

14/9/2022 11:11:50 pm

How did he screw with rules and benefit from favouritism?

NOT IMPRESSED

14/9/2022 10:15:53 pm

The response from Remy during the AGM was inadequate and reflective of the failures of the LSS this election period. The general theme of the meeting was 'passing the baton' to the 2023 committee, essentially absolving themselves of any responsibility to right their wrongs. Overall, the mentality of 'X wasn't required by the regulations' or we didn't 'technically' do anything wrong mentally or blaming misdemeanours on third parties (not on the LSS) begs the question, what is the point of the LSS in the first place? Sick and tired of emptiness and absolute refusal to admit mistake and to IMPROVE.

Other wrongs?

14/9/2022 10:20:20 pm

What are some of these ‘wrongs’ people have been talking about as part of the election process?

I would also like to know

14/9/2022 11:04:44 pm

I would also love to know

Waiting for a mate

14/9/2022 10:34:40 pm

Honestly just waiting for that guy who would always comment about there being no law jobs to pop up again

HAHA

14/9/2022 10:36:43 pm

HAHAHAHAHA

Amogus

14/9/2022 10:37:03 pm

honestly, has there ever been a non-sus, genuine person that has ‘served’ high up in the LSS? All you ever hear are stories about sleazy operators like this…

Old school

15/9/2022 01:23:16 pm

DBS was fucked

@old school

15/9/2022 03:04:31 pm

What happened? Not familiar with anything before this year

Redundant

14/9/2022 10:41:23 pm

What. does. it. say. that. rules. were. broken, but. she. still. didn’t. have. enough. influence. to. actually. change the. election. A. literal. Presidential. endorsement. of. a candidate. being. completely. ineffectual. doesn’t. say. much. about. people’s. views. on. her judgement..or. it. speaks. better. of. the. MLS. cohort. which…..seems. unlikely

WOAH.

14/9/2022 10:44:56 pm

Savage.

Who won?

14/9/2022 10:46:35 pm

Saad for President

14/9/2022 11:05:58 pm

Saad won

Disappointed

14/9/2022 10:45:25 pm

This election is meaningless for so many positions, won by people who benefited from and participated in conduct that makes the LSS the elitist, insular society we all fear and know it often is.
The discussion at the AGM regarding this issue won't even be included in the official minutes due to some bureaucratic bullshit, and we are relying on the next LSS to fix these issues when the leadership team is comprised of people who benefited from the misconduct.
How do we expect anything to change?

It's easy to dismiss, but at the very least: good people do put their heart and soul into these elections, and it's not okay when they are hurt by this kind of dodginess, which does perpetuate wider issues in many people's law school experiences.

CHILL OUT

15/9/2022 09:01:33 am

oh nooooo the current LT are soooo dodgy because they all collaborated as a team (pre-election) to build a really useful website that’ll help students with subject selection and one of them decided to credit the others in a campaign Facebook post when he ran on that platform. the horror of it all!!!! IMPEACH!! EXPEL!!

Well that was specific

15/9/2022 02:50:38 pm

That was an oddly specific response to an otherwise general statement regarding misconduct...feeling guilty?

“Transparency”

14/9/2022 10:51:42 pm

Since you won’t see this in the minutes of the AGM, specific records of what was discussed about the election need to be requested from the Sec

Wtf

14/9/2022 10:53:00 pm

Privileged white people teaming up against other poc candidates, shocker wow

Wotttttt

14/9/2022 10:54:36 pm

Share the details!

CFLA

14/9/2022 10:53:43 pm

The way the new External Relations officer flew into their role in the CFLA was so much more suss than Remy’s election rigging 👀👀

Brene Brown

14/9/2022 10:57:19 pm

Say more

Interested

14/9/2022 11:03:37 pm

Say more right now please

Details

14/9/2022 10:56:47 pm

Details please???

Just the LSS?

14/9/2022 11:04:58 pm

Is this sort of thing only really an issue in the LSS because it’s the biggest student org in MLS? Or are other groups (GLSA, CFLA etc) also filled with similar fuckery that isn’t publicised

GLSA is a joke

14/9/2022 11:06:47 pm

Been at GLSA and it definitely was one of the most toxic environment in law school

14/9/2022 11:15:11 pm

What makes you say that?

Worse than LSS?

14/9/2022 11:22:50 pm

specific committee or in general

GLSA TRAUMA

15/9/2022 08:11:03 am

I concur, GLSA is an beyond toxic with extreme hierarchy and zero regard for co-opts.

Sad face

15/9/2022 08:24:34 am

This is a great shame. I met my best friends as a co-opt on the GLSA a few years ago now and the general vibe was lovely.

15/9/2022 11:01:12 am

They don’t even try to be fake and nice to you. In my experience, they were always rude and demanding of co-opts. Would give them a hard time when they said no to things directors decided to change last minute. Of course, there are lovely people there, but the general culture is very unhealthy.

Will this get taken down

14/9/2022 11:10:26 pm

Sorry a question about this page. Is this part of MLS? I’m a first year and I’ve never heard of this page, but do the LSS or MLS have the capability of shutting this discussion?

White [LSS] fragility

14/9/2022 11:14:54 pm

Aw you too scared to face reality?

???

14/9/2022 11:16:28 pm

What does this have to do with the question being asked

Wrong spot

14/9/2022 11:19:34 pm

I think this was meant to be replied on another comment

Freedom of speech !!!!!!

14/9/2022 11:14:59 pm

Not really sure about this as I’m also a first year but I’d assume law students are allowed to have the right to speak out

Old editor of this notorious rag

15/9/2022 01:48:26 pm

LSS and MLS have tried and failed many times to shut this rag down - they can't. De min is a mirror to law school culture - if you don't like de min, send in an article, they'll publish it and you can have a discussion about it. De min is the only thing holding the LSS accountable half the time, given the nepotism and the fact that they're in bed with all the firms. De min can actually enact change - look up the article regarding disclosure of firm sponsorship.

Oh no

14/9/2022 11:25:35 pm

How could remy do this 🫣 I loved him in ratatouille

Ratatouille

14/9/2022 11:50:20 pm

He was sick of Linguini trying to expose his secret

What

14/9/2022 11:52:43 pm

That is not correct, why would Linguini want to expose his secret? They are in this together and both go down together.

Wondering

14/9/2022 11:30:03 pm

I know Saad got pres but does anyone have the results for the rest of the portfolios?

Yes please

14/9/2022 11:32:44 pm

^^^

Results

14/9/2022 11:36:23 pm

VP- Sabrina and Aaron
Treasurer- Nathan
Spons- Alice
Secretary- Lachie
Womens- Eliza
Activities- Hugo and Richard
Comms- Megan and alice
Careers- Vivian and Riordan
Edu- Poom and Amy
Intl- Hannah
Indigenous- Keshi
Disability- Charis
Second year- Rubik’s
Third year- Anna

Grateful

14/9/2022 11:40:52 pm

Thank you! Is there an equity one? Sorry lol I don't know much about the LSS but interested to learn more after all this blowing upppp

To Grateful

15/9/2022 08:12:14 am

Equity and Social Justice is Alex Nettle and Molly McDonald

Curious Cat

14/9/2022 11:31:31 pm

I want to know what terrible things the cat did that needed for the meeting to be put on hold???

Left on read

14/9/2022 11:39:19 pm

I wonder whether anyones said anything in Remy’s group chat this evening? 👀

WE LOVE SAAD

15/9/2022 06:20:02 am

GO SAAD WE LOVE YOU

Purely Dickta

15/9/2022 02:57:14 pm

This is so much fucking better than Purely Dicta - pls bring back de min for good. I want more rubbish poems, betoota style jokes, and ridiculous wars in the comments. The LSS hates fun lmao - can't criticise them and can't criticise the firms in PD!

Kush

15/9/2022 04:34:43 pm

Anyone on this thread smoke weed lol

The real Saad

15/9/2022 10:30:06 pm

I do

Please be kind

15/9/2022 11:29:55 pm

Whatever your opinion, let’s agree to be human and recognise that Remy is also a human. She’s a 20 something woman who’s just had a post publicly out her that has 100+ comments ripping into her, her privilege and even her career prospects. I think valid points and discussions are being made and she obviously made a mistake, but please before you post your comment remember that she does have feelings at the end of the day (and so do the other candidates who ran).

Not affiliated or friends with Remy, just wanted to see a bit more kindness in the community.

Huh

19/9/2022 09:56:09 pm

Her full name is right there in the Facebook post

Fly on the wall

20/9/2022 09:36:23 pm

I really want to sit in the Remy and Saad handover

NPJ

26/9/2022 04:23:46 pm

Law school moment

Henry

5/10/2022 11:00:12 am

The sad thing is, you're all furiously running for office in the LSS because you need to pad your resumes.

But this padding is pointless- you have to realize is that there really is only ONE criteria that employers look at-your marks. Do not be fooled about 'softs' and 'ECs' and the 'broad candidates' that the top tier talks about (but never hires), its marks, marks, marks,marks and nothing else. Nobody cares that you were an 'officer' at the LSS (with no real budget or power to change anything) for a course that only lasts for three years anyway. If you're not in the top 20% of marks after first year, its all over.

Of course, the real reason you are in this mess is that you (or 90% of you) are paying 140k in non dischargeable debt for something that used to cost about 10k. The school job statistics have been selectively collected to harvest the grads that go to major firms. You are paying for the fifth investment properties of your faculty, and their private little smirks confirm this.

Watching you fight over positions in the pointless LSS is like watching people fight over who's on the Titanic social committee as the ship sinks.

If not in the top 20% after first year, you need to drop out. Wake up before its too late! Dont worry about pointless LSS positions (which wont help your doomed career anyway). There's a much bigger scam happening right under your noses.

Avid watcher of Henry

13/10/2022 12:54:42 am

he's back baby - can't keep a good man down

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I don’t know whether the message violates any election rules but it does undermine the integrity of the election process. I thought that the President was supposed to remain impartial or at least give the appearance of impartiality.

Clearly, the President of the LSS thought this as well.