Special Issue: Melbourne University Law Students' Society Elections Issue 7, Semester 2 Editor’s Note: This story was researched and written by members of the De Minimis editorial board in response to contact by a concerned member of the LSS committee. De Minimis does not advocate a specific position on this matter. We encourage all students to approach us for publication of their stories and thoughts about the goings-on at Melbourne Law School. At the monthly general committee meeting on August 26th, the LSS committee approved expenditure of $2,500.00 on the annual end-of-year committee celebration party ‘End of Reign’ according to an anonymous source within the LSS committee. As per the minutes provided by LSS, the motion was passed with twenty-seven votes in favour, two against, one abstention, and one voting member not being present or allocating a proxy. According to the source, the party to be held at Benjy’s Karaoke Bar on Lygon St in October, has had an expenditure breakdown approved of $2000.00 allocated for a bar tab, and $500.00 allocated for food. When reached for comment, the LSS clarified that $2000.00 was the minimum expenditure required by the venue to secure a booking. It is not uncommon for student societies and non-profits to hold end-of-year parties for members. It is understood that in previous years, the LSS has approved budgets of approximately $2000.00 for similar events.
The entire LSS committee of ninety-one members, comprising of thirty-one voting committee members and sixty appointed co-opt positions, has been invited to the event, which constitutes a nominal expenditure of approximately $27.50 per attendee. However, the source has raised concerns that the expenditure may be disproportionate to the actual attendance. They have suggested that based on similar events in previous years, and attendance by co-opts at public events throughout 2019, the majority of co-opt members, who are generally less involved with the committee, are unlikely to attend, resulting in a considerably higher expenditure per person. The source also highlighted that other events throughout the year have been allocated substantially lower budgets, such as the Annual Queer Lecture with a total attendance of approximately seventy students being allocated $500.00 for catering, alcohol and speaker gifts. When presented for comment, the LSS leadership team disputed these claims, stating that in previous years, many co-opts did choose to attend the end-of-year event. They clarified that the increased expense from previous years was due to a decision to move the event to a public venue, rather than the traditional practice of holding it a committee member’s home, and that they hoped with the move to a public venue, more members would choose to attend. They stated that the event had received seventy RSVPs on Facebook. They also suggested that other events such as the Queer Annual Lecture were not comparable in purpose or format, and that an appropriate comparison would be the annual trivia night, with an approximate expense breakdown of $27.00 per attendee including ticket sales. The LSS leadership team contends that the expenditure on the party is a reasonable reward for the efforts undertaken by volunteer committee members throughout the year on behalf of the LSS and wider student body. Independently of the spending, the anonymous committee member suggested that this issue highlights concern over the transparency and accessibility of committee decisions and finances. At the time of publication, it is understood by De Minimis that whilst financial reports are delivered at the LSS Annual General Meeting, and financial documents and minutes of committee meetings are available to LSS members upon making a request to the secretary; that financial reports, agendas for upcoming meetings and committee meeting minutes are not published or made available outside of submitting requests. The reading and distribution of annual financial reports at the Annual General Meeting does not take place until after the election of the subsequent year’s committee. Concerns have been raised that this approach requires students to proactively request information on committee minutes and finances prior to being made aware of the subject matter of committee decisions. The LSS maintains that all students are entitled to request financial reports and committee minutes from the LSS Secretary, and has volunteered relevant documents to De Minimis in preparation of this story. Presidential candidates for the 2020 LSS Committee, Sarah Watling and Daniel Bennett-Spark were contacted for comment on how they voted on the expenditure approval. Both declined to disclose their vote, stating that the vote was conducted anonymously, and they did not wish to pressure other committee members into revealing their own decisions. They encouraged concerned students to view the minutes of LSS committee meetings. Official Comment from LSS Leadership Team The LSS has always prioritised and substantially invested in its members. Committee members spend hours of time and effort to put on events and create opportunities that benefit students directly. Directors and co opts always aim to act with the best interests of LSS members, and through their actions have consistently shown a commitment to their peers. The End of Reign is a small token of recognition of all the hard work put in by students, in voluntary positions, to benefit their cohort and peers, whilst also juggling similar pressures of studies, clerkships, work and other extracurricular commitments. This LSS receives funding from a number of sources and sponsors with student contributions being a very small percentage of this, student contributions are not used to fund the End of Reign event. This event was debated and discussed in detail to ensure that there has been no breach of the duties held by directors. Concerns expressed about transparency will be taken on board, we are always aiming to work towards making the LSS’ processes as open to students as possible. If anyone has any additional questions or concerns about the End of Reign event or any of the LSS’ events or processes please do not hesitate to email either [email protected] or [email protected]
Stanislav Jokovic
8/9/2019 08:51:53 pm
As a co opt, who will not be attending, this is ridiculous! One can only assume that this is just another opportunity for LSS leadership team and their clique to hang out on everyone else's dime! The elitist and exclusionary attitudes exhibited by certain directors gives the LSS a bad name. You are not cool or special by being on LSS, get the fuck over yourselves! But anyway have fun with the 2k bar tab xoxo
The Grinch
8/9/2019 10:41:16 pm
Get over yourself mate. Their clique? Everyone else's dime? The only one excluding you is yourself. Sadly, screens deny us visual contact, but I can tell green isn't a good look on you honey x
oh please
8/9/2019 10:44:24 pm
Get over yourself, darling. It's a two way street - people are not expected to pander to your poor attitude just to put a smile on your face. This is the real world.
isn't that
9/9/2019 02:29:54 pm
the LSS is not the real world, good luck out there.
Brad
8/9/2019 09:03:28 pm
Pretty shameful, guys. Especially knowing the comparative figures for the queer event. Not good.
Question
8/9/2019 09:56:38 pm
I don't want to assume one way or the other, but was more money requested for the Annual Queer Lecture and denied? Or is it possible only a moderate amount was requested?
Anon
8/9/2019 10:23:59 pm
The queer annual lecture is just one event and more funds were easily accessible if requested. Many other events of comparable size and nature match and even exceed the budget for a 91 person event.
Chad
8/9/2019 10:43:32 pm
If people cared so much about this issue and about the amount of money spent by the LSS AND emailed the generic secretary email account like you would any other organisation contact, you will find that the amount of money to host an annual lecture or panel night is roughly 250-600 dollars. That's the same for careers, education, womens, equality and social justice portfolios. It really is shameful that the LSS is using "student money" to run an event that celebrates their efforts to even provide the student body with support and opportunities. I write that sarcastically because membership is free and most of the LSS money is from sponsorship - which is earned through the voluntary work of the sponsorship director and Leadership team.
Reality check
24/9/2019 08:42:50 pm
Also, whoever gave 70 for the queer lecture is very wrong. We are lucky to get 30 attendees. So the spend per head is much higher.
One dime short of a dollar
8/9/2019 09:10:39 pm
Can you elaborate on what you mean by elitist and exclusionary attitudes? In every interaction I've ever had with a member of the LSS, everyone has always been warm, open and welcoming.
Stan
8/9/2019 09:56:34 pm
Is this sarcasm lol
One dime
8/9/2019 09:59:46 pm
No, it isn't. Genuinely curious to hear your view.
totally not an LSS committee member
9/9/2019 02:28:38 pm
they are truly great, the greatest!!! all of them are the NICEST and the BEST people
Entitlement
8/9/2019 09:10:43 pm
As someone who has watched friends working so hard as part of the committee and spending a crazy amount of time at events and competitions throughout the year, this article and the comment above is so unfair.
Co-Opt
8/9/2019 09:12:04 pm
I think it’s ok for committee to celebrate their hard work, but I agree - to my knowledge a lot of co-opts aren’t attending, the 70 responses on Facebook aren’t the real numbers. Still, I think the committee has done a great job this year, it’s just disappointing to make this decision without a lot of transparency to cap it off at the end. 10/9/2019 11:39:49 am
thank you for your contribution co opt. i wont be going either, but i wasnt invited, so thats why, enjoy the party - MT
Absolute Unit
8/9/2019 09:14:05 pm
Okay can someone please point out how fucked it is that they're calling End of Reign??? Yeah righto nice reign you've had champs!
chonky boi
12/9/2019 11:18:16 am
I agree, this was the part that miffed me the most. Are your positions really considered 'voluntary roles' to serve the student body? There's a difference in having pride in your work and bloating your ego. This is a universal issue recognized within student societies everywhere though, so perhaps it's unfair to have expected any better.
this article is so farrago
8/9/2019 09:15:40 pm
But having said that, I really dig it. As a third year who is almost completely out of the MLS loop, I’d have never known about this otherwise, so kudos to you DeMin. Kudos.
A cool law student?
8/9/2019 09:36:42 pm
How is not being 'cool' enough relevant? You go on fb and click on the event and you can buy a ticket or just go if it doesn't have tickets. You don't need to be invited, we're all law students so we're all automatically invited (with a few exceptions for year level specific events etc)
TAISF
8/9/2019 09:48:55 pm
That sentence should be synonymous with "and various other parties that I am probably not aware of" but I can see how my self-depreciation muddied the waters.
TAISF
8/9/2019 09:50:59 pm
and that should say self-deprecation
squarebob spongepants
8/9/2019 09:19:09 pm
De Minimis is the best student-run publication; its great that both positions regarding this are given a platform without unfair editorial slant
Whistleblower
8/9/2019 09:23:19 pm
For those of you not in LSS, here's the tone deaf post by Hannah Gordon in their Facebook group (note that it's disappointing someone went to De Min rather than consulting them!):
Smart law man
8/9/2019 09:26:45 pm
I don't quite see what's tone deaf about this
Smart law woman
8/9/2019 10:59:49 pm
Same here – I don't get how this is tone deaf? It sounds quite reasoned and diplomatic imo
Insert pun here
8/9/2019 09:23:55 pm
I don't think this is so bad. Yes - 2.5k sounds like a lot, but when you consider that the overall budget and number of members, its equivalent to an average office Christmas party. That being said, I do agree with the final point - when students have to write an email to somebody they dont know to find out about the how the society is spending money before they've even been given a reason to think they should look into things isn't the best way to run an accountable union.
We are not amused
8/9/2019 09:29:13 pm
It's kind of sensationalist for DM to suddenly MAKE A BIG DEAL about a party for hard-working students, SPENDING ALL OUR MONEY. So they rewarded themselves a night off, get over it, aren't there more important things to write about.
V
8/9/2019 09:40:10 pm
> Also pretty shameful for people to be leaking confidential Facebook posts. Do better guys.
JFC
8/9/2019 10:53:54 pm
Hi V
W
9/9/2019 09:49:30 am
I suggest you check the Constitution:
Give us a spell
8/9/2019 09:39:32 pm
There is more salt in this comment section than in the Pacific Ocean.
Sk8er boi
8/9/2019 09:44:46 pm
I concur! Surely the rampant spread of sk8ers in the Uni Square area is a more pressing issue
Brad
8/9/2019 10:18:52 pm
Nah I like the skaters, they can stay
see ya later boi
9/9/2019 05:07:58 pm
what??? they're so entertaining!
Mean girls
8/9/2019 09:48:23 pm
I wish I could bake a cake filled with rainbows and smiles and everyone would eat and be happy
Sad Attitude
8/9/2019 10:06:42 pm
Honestly really disappointing to see the reaction some people have to LSS wanting to finish their term on a nice note and celebrate together. The countless hours the committee gives up of their lives so you all can enjoy events and make the most out of your degrees is astronomical. Hence the amount of complaining is completely unjustified, not a single person could show up to that party and the expenses would still be worth it. After all, $27pp isn’t a huge loss when you consider the tireless effort of the committee. It’s visibly apparent from the attitude at these events that no one has the slightest clue of the behind the scenes work going into the organisation, time that could be spent on studies, yet devoted to enhancing MLS. Furthermore, calm yourselves LSS is a free membership, none of your ‘hard-earned money’ is going towards this event.
clap emoji
8/9/2019 10:11:15 pm
**Applauds**
Retweet
8/9/2019 10:12:49 pm
Louder for the people in the back
Yep yep yep
8/9/2019 10:18:11 pm
Completely agree with this! One thing to note though is that the LSS does receive funding derived from the students services and amenities fee (SSAF). As mentioned in the article this is probably a negligible amount (I guess we'll find out when the financial reports are disclosed at the AGM) but it does mean that some student money does go to the LSS.
sad 300 dollar worse off gal
8/9/2019 10:32:23 pm
SSAF should be scrapped anyway. I'd rather keep the extra $300 and put it to better use - the MSU is a rort
Wot
8/9/2019 10:09:07 pm
Does De Min literally have nothing else to talk about? Woah, student group celebrates a year of hard work! In other breaking news: water makes things wet
reading and comprehension
8/9/2019 10:48:57 pm
You realise this piece was written by a member of the LSS right?
Anon
9/9/2019 10:45:23 am
*an lss co-op who is also editor on de minimis
Clay Jensen
8/9/2019 10:18:19 pm
Anybody who whinges about a $2.5k party is an ungrateful little hater. Don't get butt hurt because it's not coming out of your own pocket, it comes from sponsors. The MULSS committee put so much of their own time into improving many aspects of student life. Competitions, social events, sports, career seminars and networking are all run by volunteers. If you can't appreciate that these people deserve some sort of recognition, then you shouldn't partake in any of the services that the organization provides.
Future employment lawyer
8/9/2019 10:19:18 pm
$27 is not fair
Pay the directors?
8/9/2019 10:29:13 pm
From over at the Unimelb Graduate Student Association:
Pay the directors?
8/9/2019 10:34:23 pm
Just to add to that, the GSA receives funding via the SSAF too and it exists to serve us as (as JD students are all grad students) https://gsa.unimelb.edu.au/about/governance-and-funding/
anti-capitalist future commercial lawyer
8/9/2019 10:21:51 pm
I demand an equal redistribution of this money to every member of the LSS and the destruction of hierarchies at LSS starting with the Committee.
Eye roll react
8/9/2019 10:22:57 pm
Champagne socialists. Everywhere. I *cannot* with some of these comments.
The Fourth Estate
8/9/2019 10:24:34 pm
To those shitting on De Min for investigating and authoring this piece, I for one think this is a well-researched piece of writing, and am glad they looked into it after being approached by the source. They exist to publish pieces that are relevant and important to the student body, after all. Regardless on where you stand on this issue it's great that De Min have taken such a balanced position, seeking comment from all involved- IMO they're engaging in some actual journalism here.
Nas>Jay Z
8/9/2019 10:27:22 pm
Loving all the LSS coming out of the woodwork to defend their cronyism...
CLAY JENSEN
8/9/2019 10:32:46 pm
Ah yes, a wild hater appears
Ignorant
8/9/2019 10:40:31 pm
This comment discloses such a lack of understanding of how the LSS is funded. Please read the financial reports, speak to people who are actually on committee and educate yourself.
Lolwut?
8/9/2019 10:44:50 pm
"Are sponsors really going to approve of a karaoke night with no advertising... So one can only assume that this funding was sourced from our fees."
The Ghost of LT Past
8/9/2019 10:39:57 pm
To the members of the LT and LSS who are reading these comments instead of spending their already limited time (on account of the fact that they sacrificed countless hours, relationships and self care to benefit their cohort) on important things, please turn this off.
Oh come on
8/9/2019 10:50:52 pm
I approve the sentiment to committee members, rather than worrying about this piece, go get some sleep and enjoy your election week. As for the contempt this poster has for the people involved in running this piece - lest you forget, the issue was raised by a member of committee in the first place. I'm pretty i favour of committees being allowed to throw themselves a party as a reward for their work (and there is A LOT of work they do), but a lot of people seem to have concerns over it, I don't think it's just a witch hunt. Be a bit more charitable than just assuming that everybody else only feels bitterness and scorn for you.
Turn it up
8/9/2019 10:58:00 pm
bit over the top don’t you reckon champ
You right mate?
8/9/2019 11:08:45 pm
It's just a touch of criticism champ, no one's getting death threats hahahaha relax hey
All hail the reigning monarchs of MLS
8/9/2019 10:44:13 pm
Give them a few years and they’ll be doing this on a much greater scale up in Canberra!
Actually works for Government
8/9/2019 10:58:17 pm
that's vastly overstating both their ambitions and capabilities here imo.
rude
8/9/2019 11:07:46 pm
Why go after their capabilities?
Ok
8/9/2019 10:53:56 pm
Hannah,
tirelessly
9/9/2019 02:42:39 pm
Maybe the $2500 should go towards tires for the LSS.
long time reader, first time commenter
8/9/2019 11:02:21 pm
This is such a joke of an article. I'd rather read the candidate profiles than this. People complaining about this are so entitled it makes me want to spit out my 7 Seeds latte. None of you care enough to send a simple email to receive the monthly minutes/financials etc. of the LSS, yet when De Minimis write an article about spending on a party everyone loses their minds. Can't wait to see all the people who care so much about LSS spending at the next AGM to raise your concerns xx
HAHA!
8/9/2019 11:05:42 pm
LOUDER SIS! Give the LSS a damn break.
You are not immune
8/9/2019 11:48:39 pm
The comments really reveal that the unpaid nature of the committee makes members feel as if they are immune from criticism - I use unpaid because it’s very clearly as much an altruistic volunteering position as an unpaid internship which people only take to help them land a job. Notably, only those who don’t have to undertake paid work can possibly afford to take either of these things up.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
8/9/2019 11:56:22 pm
"Notably, only those who don’t have to undertake paid work can possibly afford to take either of these things up."
Speak for yourself below
9/9/2019 12:03:33 am
Lol wish I'd seen this before commenting essentially the same thing haha
Speak for yourself
9/9/2019 12:01:32 am
"only those who don’t have to undertake paid work can possibly afford to take either of these things up"
Clay Jensen
9/9/2019 12:06:53 am
If you don't like the LSS, don't engage with any of the services they provide. Judging by your ungrateful attitude, you won't be missed.
Hypocrite
9/9/2019 10:47:07 am
If you don't like the [Australian government], don't engage with any of the services they provide. Judging by your ungrateful attitude, you won't be missed.
Clay Jensen
9/9/2019 11:10:41 am
LSS is a student society not the government (where people are paid). If you participate in any LSS event/service, you have to acknowledge that there's quite a bit work that goes in behind the scenes, the benefits of which you can just rock up and receive for free. This event acknowledges the people who make the effort, even when hypocrites such as yourself feel the need to belittle them.
Rein in your hyperbole
9/9/2019 12:11:00 am
If the directors were just in it for the line on their CV, why do they bother running so many events and initiatives? Wouldn't they just do the bare minimum if that was actually the case? I'm not discounting the fact that the experience is valuable and that provides an incentive, but are you really suggesting that none of the directors care about their portfolios?
Quick Math
9/9/2019 12:14:09 am
What event are you even talking about here? Val is $80 and law ball was $120 for law students from memory. Where is this $140 coming from? 9/9/2019 12:21:18 am
I think it's laughable for you to assume that people would engage in ANY activity at law school that doesn't help them in their career in some way. If joining the LSS didn't enhance a CV then there would be no incentive to participate in it at all. Being on the LSS is a tireless commitment, and there are tons of other pursuits that would be a) less time commitment, and b) more fiscally beneficial, but the fact is that they're willing to donate their time because they enjoy it.
...
9/9/2019 12:25:57 am
Jesus...
Dollar dollar bills
9/9/2019 09:47:29 am
I was shook when I found out committee people still had to buy event tickets - apparently they even have to pay to go on camp even though they are basically working that whole weekend??
Ex LSS
12/9/2019 02:08:24 am
Past LSS member here. In my couple of years as a co-opt and director I had to pay to go on a camp I had organized and then ran. Paid to go to a law Ball I helped organize and run. Paid to go to a spring social... that’s probably enough examples. We paid and we got way less value because we either didn’t drink or we drank so much less because we had to be in a suitable state to look after the attendees.
We can do better everybody
9/9/2019 12:46:42 am
To the LSS committee who has put in an entire year of hard work and tireless work to bring us amazing events and opportunities, often without receiving anywhere near enough thanks or recognition - thank you.
Disengaged
9/9/2019 02:53:08 am
A lot of people here acting like our beloved LSS team does all their hard work purely out of the good of their hearts rather than as something to put on their clerkship application. I realise they put in some hard yards but lets not pretend its an exercise in pure altruism.
Clearly never done anything to help your fellow students
12/9/2019 02:13:30 am
I’m sure it’s better than them sitting on their arse but if they were trying to make their CV better then there’s plenty of easier and more beneficial options.
Disgruntled
9/9/2019 04:07:07 am
Also its very telling that:
Anon
9/9/2019 07:59:20 am
You’d be extremely surprised if you knew how much the LSS has donated this year from the Pay the Rent campaign, to small charities to even supporting smaller student societies financially. Tickets priced for activities events included a donation of part of the ticket price despite the fact the LSS was running these events at a loss to subsidise the cost for students. The LSS also had put 20k into a student scholarship and thousands into book fairy. I don’t have exact figures, but I know that the donations to both students and the community generally is well into the thousands.
donating other peoples money?
9/9/2019 09:14:57 am
so ur argument is, mate, 'the lss has donated a lot of student money to random organisiations, therefore it is okay that the lss donate a bit of money to the lss directors as well'? 9/9/2019 10:51:03 am
Im confused- how are hundreds of free events from activities to careers events to STS, plus book fairy and scholarship, plus subsidised tickets to events not benefitting you as a student enough?
DID YOU KNOW...
9/9/2019 06:42:58 am
The GSA committee members get paid upwards of $10,000/year. That's the organisation that funds this paper.
Spill the tea sis
9/9/2019 09:43:06 am
SPICY INDEED
lmao
9/9/2019 02:24:17 pm
did u know that the organisation that funds the law school pay ppl too????? wow!!!!!! thats right melbourne uni.... pays professors...
DID YOU KNOW... (Aka DYK)
9/9/2019 03:22:50 pm
I feel like you missed the point that GSA is another student org that does similar work for graduate students (law kids included). I just found it amusing that DM complained about $27.50 a head while the organisation that funds them pays it's 'volunteers' ex gratia payments of $10k+.
IGNORE IGNORANCE
9/9/2019 06:55:39 am
What a stupid article.
NPJ
9/9/2019 07:33:42 am
Best article on the LSS in years!
the end of Law
9/9/2019 09:09:43 am
LSS = private feudal privilege society
Rogue
9/9/2019 10:15:27 am
You must be fun at parties (events subsidized by LSS and run at a loss to make more accessible for students).
Try again sweetie
9/9/2019 11:53:20 am
For most of the people on Committee, their LinkedIn would be fine without their Committee work. People who are involved (with law and the profession etc) tend to be the ones who get involved. It ends up being one line on a CV or an anecdote in an interview.
r/auslaw
9/9/2019 12:31:15 pm
snowy we know it's you
wow
10/9/2019 05:17:01 pm
I too am shocked, SHOCKED, that the election candidates are spruiking their experience as something that qualifies them for the position they are contesting!
The floogates
9/9/2019 10:55:50 am
This article has almost as many comments as the LSS committee has members.
May the fourth (estate) be with you
9/9/2019 11:37:37 am
yeah look there are a variety of views around whether or not this expenditure is justified and that's fine, but can people stop criticising de minimis for the article???
briliant comment
9/9/2019 11:53:05 am
This is a great article, and in no way "a joke", "ignorant", "stupid" or a "witch-hunt" as numerous commenters have already suggested.
Is it objective though?
9/9/2019 12:25:53 pm
Even stories presented in a supposedly factual way can be biased when there's an obviously critical message behind them. Why would De Minimis run this piece at all if they weren't trying to send a message?
@ objective though(t)
9/9/2019 12:41:33 pm
sure, I agree that things can appear factual but be biased, but I don't think it follows that everything has to be super biased always.
Michael Franz
9/9/2019 01:20:30 pm
Your amazingly talented, erudite and shockingly handsome managing editor Mr Franz here - whilst it's true that at this stage I likely won't be able to attend the party, I think we can all agree that this is for the best, as when I try to sing karaoke in my particular brand of lisping vocals, it causes women and young children to cry.
Scomo
9/9/2019 11:49:40 am
LSS funds should be placed on cashless debit cards and the committee subjected to random drug tests.
DUTTON
9/9/2019 12:01:22 pm
I heard Britt Baker was planning a coup and was trying to rally votes to become Pres
Britt 4 prez
12/9/2019 10:01:57 pm
Four more years!
Environmentally concerned
9/9/2019 12:13:21 pm
Perhaps an EFTPOS-enabled frank green keep-cup would be more suitable?
I mean...
9/9/2019 12:31:58 pm
Also to those who are disgusted by the fact it's called 'End of Reign', that's what it has been called every year, no need to vilify the current members for calling it that...
Donald Trumpet
9/9/2019 02:22:19 pm
#draintheswamp
Popcorn Eater
9/9/2019 02:40:10 pm
Can someone host a People of Colour lunch with a 2.5k budget and invite the skaters outside MLS along to chat about lecture recordings and clerkships?
Thatsa spicy meatball
9/9/2019 03:29:29 pm
Only if we can host it in the designated Womyn's room
Conflict of interest?
9/9/2019 03:35:03 pm
For those of us who have forgotten our existence prior to law school, undergraduate and UMSU affiliated societies have strict conflict of interest rules around use of funds. We put in similar amounts of volunteer time, but had to put up our own money to organise end of year celebrations to prevent disciplinary action.
Boom
9/9/2019 03:45:12 pm
This is genuinely appearing more and more like genuine corruption on the part of the LSS. Given their lack of transparency, and secret police type attitudes to shutting down dissent, it makes you wonder what else they're pulling on the sky.
read the damn constitution
10/9/2019 10:59:36 am
Ah yes, arguing by reference to the wrong constitution. Well played, I am bamboozled.
LSS directors are the next coming of Jesus
10/9/2019 11:35:48 am
Nice reading and comprehension there! The above commenter obviously realises that what the LSS is doing is within the constitution, however is arguing that the LSS should be brought into line with undergraduate standards that prevent these things from happening.
How do the constitutions interact?
10/9/2019 12:02:29 pm
I didn't attend UoM in my undergrad, so I have legitimately no idea how the constitutions interact. Is LSS a UMSU affiliate organisation and thus the constitutional requirements of USMU would take precedence? I would have imagined that if so, LSS wouldn't be free to just opt out of these requirements through its own constitution? 10/9/2019 11:24:49 am
hello i am the deminimis spy. this is fucked! LSS abuses students money?? Why is this happening to me? i want an ANSWER from our presidential candidates! nOW
Concerned Citizen
10/9/2019 03:24:48 pm
Hey whistleblower! We've thought of a few things you could do that would be more productive, and a better use of your time other than making a mountain out of a mole-hill!
Brad
10/9/2019 09:11:01 pm
How embarrassing is this comment lmao
Papier Mache Volcano
10/9/2019 09:38:34 pm
that whole comment list was definitely written by someone who used to wear cat ears in middle school and would say shit like "rawr means I love you in dinosaur"
Whistleblower
12/9/2019 03:22:47 pm
Shut up Brad
Brad
12/9/2019 03:24:13 pm
Omg I am sorry, I take it back. This was actually really funny, I actually tried a zoomba class once and I couldn't keep up so I lashed out.
WOW
23/9/2019 12:08:16 pm
The fact that this article been written from information based on a "whistle blower" is concerning. This MIGHT suggest that there are other expenditures by the LSS which may also be questionable. Comments are closed.
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